Post by Oiawesome on Dec 31, 2013 22:36:55 GMT
Kalos 2.0 OU Viability Ranking Thread (thanks PKGaming c:)
Welcome to the official Kalos 2 OU Viability Rankings topic. You should know the drill by now; In this thread, we as a community will rank every single usable Pokemon into "tiers." In this thread, you're encouraged to post your thoughts and opinions on the various Pokemon that are usable in OU and what tier they should fall under. It's about time the OU subforum joined in on the action!
The general idea of the topic is to rank each Kalos 2 OU pokemon under "rankings" that go in descending order. Since this is a general tier list, everything is lumped together. There won't be any segregation between offense & defense threats.
EX: Garchomp can be ranked in S tier as an offensive threat, Forretress can be ranked under B+ as supportive threat and Venusaur can be can also be ranked in S tier as a defensive threat. These are just examples.
Note that the overall tier list is in no particular order.
MUST READ:
PRELIMINARY Kalos 2.0 OU Ranking tier list V.1
(Subject to change!)
S Rank
The titans of the game. They bear massive offensive and defensive capabilities. Pokemon in this tier are extremely diverse, capable of fulfilling multiple roles on both defensive and offensive ends. There is virtually zero opportunity cost in using these Pokemon. They require no support from the team and have immense utility to offer.
{NO PIC} Hoopa
Venusaur
Doublade
Talonflame
Garchomp
Victini
Cresselia
Latias
A Rank
Reserved for Pokemon with impressive offensive or defensive capability. These Pokemon are typically the first to be considered to fulfill certain roles and have very little opportunity cost. They require little support to function and may have significant utility.
A+ rank:
Latios
Staraptor
Gyarados
Tornadus(and Tornadus-T)
Mew
Meloetta-P
Abomasnow
Florges
Delphox
{NOPIC} Diancie
A rank:
Registeel
Regirock
Haxorus
Celebi
Jirachi
Manaphy
Shaymin[Land]
Scyther
Heliolisk
Greninja
Meloetta-A
Rhydon
Heatran
Pinsir
A- Rank:
Forretress
Dragonite
Empoleon
Meowstic-M
Meowstic-F
Pyroar
Dragalge
Swampert
Snorlax
Regice
B Rank
Reserved for Pokemon with large offensive or defensive capability. They are designed to serve specific roles for a team and may offer valuable utility. They often need certain amounts of support and/or suffer to a degree from opportunity cost.
B+ Rank:
Ferrothorn
Throh
Sawk
Ursaring
Beartic
Pangoro
Porygon-Z
Heracross
Scizor
Luxray
Torterra
B Rank:
Clawitzer
Blastoise
Typhlosion
Sandslash
Barbracle
Aegislash
Malamar
Furfrou
Gogoat
Vivillion
Flygon
B- Rank:
Emboar
Persian
Liepard
C Rank
Reserved for Pokemon with viable offensive or defensive capability. They have certain niches or utility that allow them to perform in specific roles. Reliant on fairly large amounts of team support to function and minimize their inherent flaws. They may also suffer significantly from opportunity cost to the point of being mostly outclassed.
TBA
D Rank
Reserved for Pokemon with very little offensive or defensive capability. Barely viable, they are very rarely real considerations for specific roles. Reliant on almost the full team for support while still affected by some of their flaws. They may even suffer from massive amounts of opportunity cost to the point of being outright outclassed.
TBA
Rules
~Post intelligently. Posts like "I think pokemon X should be in this tier" will not be tolerated
~No flaming
~Usage statistics may be used to support an argument or a claim, but don't base your ENTIRE argument around them. For example, you can't just say "Pokemon X shouldn't be this tier because they aren't used that often!"
~No talk about editing the OFFICIAL tier lists.
~Bacon is amazing. This is an undisputed fact.
~Mega pokemon are considered as part of the original base form and shall be rank as apart of the base form (therians depend on the pokemon. But other forms? well, no)
Happy posting ♪♪
Welcome to the official Kalos 2 OU Viability Rankings topic. You should know the drill by now; In this thread, we as a community will rank every single usable Pokemon into "tiers." In this thread, you're encouraged to post your thoughts and opinions on the various Pokemon that are usable in OU and what tier they should fall under. It's about time the OU subforum joined in on the action!
The general idea of the topic is to rank each Kalos 2 OU pokemon under "rankings" that go in descending order. Since this is a general tier list, everything is lumped together. There won't be any segregation between offense & defense threats.
EX: Garchomp can be ranked in S tier as an offensive threat, Forretress can be ranked under B+ as supportive threat and Venusaur can be can also be ranked in S tier as a defensive threat. These are just examples.
Note that the overall tier list is in no particular order.
MUST READ:
"Guidelines from Flareblitz said:
..okay. Since it's apparent that everyone will want their "favorites" moved up until nothing exists in any rank below C, I'm going to try to introduce some objectivity into these proceedings.
S Rank: Reserved for Pokemon who can sweep or wall significant portions of the metagame with little support, and Pokemon who can support other Pokemon with very little opportunity cost ("free turns"). Also the home of Pokemon who can easily perform multiple roles effectively, increasing their versatility and unpredictability. If the Pokemon in this rank have any flaws, those flaws are thoroughly mitigated by their substantial strengths. If there are suspects, they will come from this rank.
A Rank: Reserved for Pokemon who can sweep or wall significant portions of the metagame, but require some support or have some flaws that prevents them from doing this consistently. Supporting Pokemon in this rank may give opponents free turns or cannot create free turns easily themselves, but can still do their job most of the time.
B Rank: Reserved for Pokemon who cannot sweep through or wall significant portions of the metagame, but can properly fulfill a given offensive/defensive niche. Support Pokemon in this category have flaws that prevent them from doing their job or are setup bait for dangerous sweepers. Pokemon who are partially outclassed by a Pokemon in A or S Rank, but are otherwise very dangerous, may also fall into this category.
C Rank: Reserved for Pokemon who can be effective given the right support, but either have crippling flaws that prevent them from consistently executing their strategy or are typically inferior to Pokemon in the above ranks.
D Rank: Reserved for Pokemon who are simply not very effective in the current metagame."
..okay. Since it's apparent that everyone will want their "favorites" moved up until nothing exists in any rank below C, I'm going to try to introduce some objectivity into these proceedings.
S Rank: Reserved for Pokemon who can sweep or wall significant portions of the metagame with little support, and Pokemon who can support other Pokemon with very little opportunity cost ("free turns"). Also the home of Pokemon who can easily perform multiple roles effectively, increasing their versatility and unpredictability. If the Pokemon in this rank have any flaws, those flaws are thoroughly mitigated by their substantial strengths. If there are suspects, they will come from this rank.
A Rank: Reserved for Pokemon who can sweep or wall significant portions of the metagame, but require some support or have some flaws that prevents them from doing this consistently. Supporting Pokemon in this rank may give opponents free turns or cannot create free turns easily themselves, but can still do their job most of the time.
B Rank: Reserved for Pokemon who cannot sweep through or wall significant portions of the metagame, but can properly fulfill a given offensive/defensive niche. Support Pokemon in this category have flaws that prevent them from doing their job or are setup bait for dangerous sweepers. Pokemon who are partially outclassed by a Pokemon in A or S Rank, but are otherwise very dangerous, may also fall into this category.
C Rank: Reserved for Pokemon who can be effective given the right support, but either have crippling flaws that prevent them from consistently executing their strategy or are typically inferior to Pokemon in the above ranks.
D Rank: Reserved for Pokemon who are simply not very effective in the current metagame."
PRELIMINARY Kalos 2.0 OU Ranking tier list V.1
(Subject to change!)
S Rank
The titans of the game. They bear massive offensive and defensive capabilities. Pokemon in this tier are extremely diverse, capable of fulfilling multiple roles on both defensive and offensive ends. There is virtually zero opportunity cost in using these Pokemon. They require no support from the team and have immense utility to offer.
{NO PIC} Hoopa
VenusaurDoubladeTalonflameGarchompVictiniCresselia LatiasA Rank
Reserved for Pokemon with impressive offensive or defensive capability. These Pokemon are typically the first to be considered to fulfill certain roles and have very little opportunity cost. They require little support to function and may have significant utility.
A+ rank:
LatiosStaraptorGyaradosTornadus(and Tornadus-T)MewMeloetta-PAbomasnowFlorgesDelphox{NOPIC} Diancie
A rank:
RegisteelRegirockHaxorusCelebiJirachiManaphyShaymin[Land]ScytherHelioliskGreninjaMeloetta-ARhydonHeatranPinsirA- Rank:
ForretressDragoniteEmpoleonMeowstic-MMeowstic-FPyroarDragalgeSwampertSnorlaxRegiceB Rank
Reserved for Pokemon with large offensive or defensive capability. They are designed to serve specific roles for a team and may offer valuable utility. They often need certain amounts of support and/or suffer to a degree from opportunity cost.
B+ Rank:
FerrothornThrohSawkUrsaringBearticPangoroPorygon-ZHeracrossScizorLuxrayTorterraB Rank:
ClawitzerBlastoiseTyphlosionSandslashBarbracleAegislashMalamarFurfrouGogoatVivillionFlygonB- Rank:
EmboarPersianLiepardC Rank
Reserved for Pokemon with viable offensive or defensive capability. They have certain niches or utility that allow them to perform in specific roles. Reliant on fairly large amounts of team support to function and minimize their inherent flaws. They may also suffer significantly from opportunity cost to the point of being mostly outclassed.
TBA
D Rank
Reserved for Pokemon with very little offensive or defensive capability. Barely viable, they are very rarely real considerations for specific roles. Reliant on almost the full team for support while still affected by some of their flaws. They may even suffer from massive amounts of opportunity cost to the point of being outright outclassed.
TBA
Rules
~Post intelligently. Posts like "I think pokemon X should be in this tier" will not be tolerated
~No flaming
~Usage statistics may be used to support an argument or a claim, but don't base your ENTIRE argument around them. For example, you can't just say "Pokemon X shouldn't be this tier because they aren't used that often!"
~No talk about editing the OFFICIAL tier lists.
~Bacon is amazing. This is an undisputed fact.
~Mega pokemon are considered as part of the original base form and shall be rank as apart of the base form (therians depend on the pokemon. But other forms? well, no)
Happy posting ♪♪
